Xbox One

[latro]

So, the announcement has finished bar the CoD announcement (bah). What are people thinking?

From a hardware standpoint I'm much more impressed than I thought I'd be and I definatley like what I'm seeing more than the PS4 particularly if they can get it to work even half as smoothly as the demo.

The name was unexpected and I like that its simple, defines what they want to do and pokes fun at Sony's increasing numbers.

Anyone else notice Manga's logo pop up at one stage?

Also interesting that they've promised an 'around the world' launch (US and Europe perhaps? They didn't say worldwide) by the end of the year when the PS4 is only due to hit the US (I think).

The bad stuff?

Far too much focus on sports stuff which will largly be US-centric.

They also had the same problem as Sony's conference by not really announcing any must-have games to grab intrest though admittedly this is mitigated somewhat by E3 being in 2 weeks.

Questions

Still nothing on price, no confirmation on backwards compatibility/profile transfer/XBLA transfer (unless it happened in one of the times the stream dropped....). Nothing on whether the new Kinect will be abe to recognise someone sitting in an armchair.

More importantly no confirmation on the always online rumors. The console is 'cloud powered' but how far that goes is unclear and it also wasn't clear if the TV functions were throguh streaming or through the console switching the imputs itself or perhaps just running the imputs through the console.

[Dandaman]

Well, the specs sure are tasty. It's about the closest a console has gotten to a high end pc for a long time. I can see the Xbox ONE knocking the PS4 out the park and something tells me there will be a big price difference yet again.

I wanna know what the HDMI input is for... seems odd to have an input on the console along side an output, very interesting.

[EighteenSky]

I've never been less impressed with a console reveal. It has pretty much confirmed that I'm not gonna get a next gen console (apart from the Wii U somewhere down the line). When you're talking about TV for most of the thing you know you've gone wrong. And Kinect? I still don't want an over priced Eyetoy, waste of time and space.

The games revealed were oh so poor. Forza? Yeah it's a pale imitation of GT. A new CoD? They series has never been anything other than generic drivel. Quantum Break (think thats what it was called) no game play showed so how can I get excited? Add in the sports games (which I will never buy new) and it basically tried to sell itself to the American teenage market and it did just that.

[Overlord Ramirez]

Don't really care, I buy Games not consoles and if there's nothing coming out on it that I want then I won't bother

Stupid name as well, they must of taken advice for it from Hollywood.

[ussjtrunks]

Microsofts its a games console its supposed to I dont know actually play games, If I want to watch tv I turn on my sky box seriously only Americans would buy into all this instant switching nonsense

Microsoft need a good E3 to convince me but Sony will probably get my money instead

[megalomaniac]

It actually looks quite minimalist for a console, I approve (though Kinect....still flogging the dead horse I see). It's just shame about all the buzzwords and lack of real information. Nothing yet to make me think I'll be buying one anytime soon and the share price drop vs the Sony increase says a lot about what the market thinks.

[EighteenSky]

Just read about the pre owned fee. Absolute idiocy. Bound to lose a lot of potential buyers now.

[rjessop]

Originally Posted by latro

... no confirmation on backwards compatibility/profile transfer/XBLA transfer

Nothing mentioned in the stream AFAIK but they've told engadget no.

Originally Posted by latro

More importantly no confirmation on the always online rumors. The console is 'cloud powered' but how far that goes is unclear...

Wired have a piece on this.


It behoves me to point out that I do not endorse either of these sources or their information. Posts are my own and do not necessarily represent the views of my employer etc etc you get the idea.

[Necro]

I'm not interested in getting a next gen console, but I watched it regardless. The unit itself looks really nice. Impressed at it's aesthetic.

Originally Posted by EighteenSky

The games revealed were oh so poor. Forza? Yeah it's a pale imitation of GT

I personally think its a really good racing game.
Also CoD is a fundamentally a fun game, they've just wrecked the series by over saturation and jamming in too many features. You also sound a little mad.

Originally Posted by EighteenSky

Just read about the pre owned fee. Absolute idiocy. Bound to lose a lot of potential buyers now.

It's probably bullshit

Q: Will Xbox One allow players to trade in, purchase and play pre-owned games?

A: We are designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games. We’ll have more details to share later.

[Hanners]

Originally Posted by latro

Still nothing on price, no confirmation on backwards compatibility/profile transfer/XBLA transfer (unless it happened in one of the times the stream dropped....). Nothing on whether the new Kinect will be abe to recognise someone sitting in an armchair.

Backwards compatibility is confirmed not to be in the console - it really isn't all that technically and/or financially feasible.

As I understand it the new Kinect is better designed to recognise people sitting down and holding controllers amongst other things.

The whole profile transfer question is an interesting one given the limitations on used games (i.e. a purchase gets locked to an Xbox Live account, so if you sell that game on the next buyer has to pay a fee to gain the rights to play it).

[Hanners]

Originally Posted by megalomaniac

the share price drop vs the Sony increase says a lot about what the market thinks.

That happens at every product launch though - watch Apple shares plummet whenever they announce a new iDevice, and people seem to have forgotten that Sony shares also dropped 24 points after the PS4 launch!

[Kite]

That fee to play used games I'd going to kick up a fuss, I can see a court case on the horizon.

[dapprman]

Originally Posted by EighteenSky

Just read about the pre owned fee. Absolute idiocy. Bound to lose a lot of potential buyers now.

Originally Posted by Kite

That fee to play used games I'd going to kick up a fuss, I can see a court case on the horizon.

So you've never bought second hand games from Game or eBay etc ?

What they said is they are looking to allow people to RE-SELL their unwanted games. What's the difference from now - or do you get all your games free from friends and never buy ?

[Hanners]

Originally Posted by dapprman

What they said is they are looking to allow people to RE-SELL their unwanted games. What's the difference from now - or do you get all your games free from friends and never buy ?

That doesn't preclude the fact that they can charge for the privilege of having that pre-owned game transferred to your Xbox Live account.

[Necro]

I've already given a link and quote that says they are designing it so that we can trade and resell games.
AFAIK there has been no official word on the pre-owned fee.